Narcissists get a bad rap, but is it deserved? According to Emily Grijalva, an associate professor of organizational behavior at the University at Buffalo School of Management and a renowned expert on narcissism, it’s complicated. Grijalva has spent her career studying the trait—among leaders, across genders, over the lifetime and through the generations. She’s even studied narcissism inside the NBA. In this episode, she speaks to host Laura Silverman about the pros and cons of narcissism, how to cope with a narcissistic boss, why men are more prone to narcissism than women, and the truth behind every generation’s belief that “kids today” are more narcissistic than ever (spoiler alert: they’re not).